USS DeHAVEN DD 727 Sumner class destroyer refueling from the USS ORISKANY CVA 34
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Gene Slover |
We spent more time under water |
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Posts: 6274 ( 8-May-2008 06:44:35) |
than on top of it.
USS DeHAVEN DD 727 Sumner class destroyer refueling from the USS ORISKANY CVA 34 http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/AMMUNITION/DD-REFUELING-FROM-CARRIER.html |
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Posts: 8454 ( 8-May-2008 07:59:47) Wheat Boss |
Any idea why she has bloomers on Mount 51 but not on Mount 52?
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jlyons97 |
bloomers... | ||
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Posts: 1472 ( 8-May-2008 11:39:11) |
Theodore wrote: The Mk 25 radar says mid-'50s? Had a Mustang CO once, to whom I posed the same question. He said it had gotten "too hard." The patterns were
no longer available and the concept of the inflatable gun port seal had replaced the bloomers. At any rate, by the time I was looking at real 5"38s the
canvas thingies were all gone, or so it appeared.
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Gene Slover |
The bloomers were to keep the sea water | ||
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Posts: 6277 ( 8-May-2008 11:42:49) |
from washing the grease off the gun port shields. The gun port shields are the curved pieces that fit around the gun barrel and seal the gun port to keep sea water out. The gun port seals are fitted to the gun port and are a friction slide fit. Grease is liberaly applied to keep down wear so you don't have sea water entering the gun house. It was apparently the captains choice if the gun mounts used bloomers or not. The bloomers were canvas and were painted with a waterproofing paint. The bloomers would wear out in the creases and folds from the constant pounding of the sea water in rough weather. The bloomers were a pain in the ass. |
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Gene Slover |
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Posts: 6278 ( 8-May-2008 12:03:15) |
We used waterproof canvas to cover a lot of things exposed to the sea water.
We kept quite a bit of canvas aboard and you cut it to fit whatever you were covering and you had to sew it together. We had a palm protector that had a sort of socket for the end of the needle so you did not hurt your hand if the needle slipped and large needles and a heavy string. If I can find a picture of this I'll post it? Canvas was kept on the winches, depth charge racks, the drums where we rolled up the lines used to tie up the ship. There was a slot in the MK 37 director for the rangefinder. The rangefinder received level and crosslevel so it moved up and down in the slot and we used canvas to waterproof the director around the rangefinder. The officers hatch was canvas on the director. There were just lots of places we used waterproof canvas and it had to be cut to fit. |
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Captain Cee J |
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Posts: 1312 ( 8-May-2008 14:33:29) |
When did they sub out neoprene gun bucklers for the bloomers? On the DD it makes sense they'd have bloomers on turret 1 due to it's exposure to water.
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Gunnersmate04 |
Looks more like a | ||
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Posts: 132 ( 8-May-2008 15:13:58) |
..sub riding on the surface!!!
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Gene Slover |
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Posts: 6280 ( 8-May-2008 17:13:21) |
(((When did they sub out neoprene gun bucklers for the bloomers?)))
They were first made for the 8"/55 rapid fire guns I think. Then for the16"/50's on the Iowas during the Korean War. When the Iowas first came out they used the same 1 ply rubber flashing material that had been used on all other BB guns. To use the 1 ply rubber flashing you cut it like you did the canvas. |
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Gene Slover |
I had forgotten about this | ||
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Posts: 6281 ( 8-May-2008 17:30:39) |
The Boatswainsmates kept bolts of canvas and when you needed some you got it from them.
You also got the needles and palm protector from the Boatswainsmates as well as the waterproffing paint. Depending on what you were going to sew up you only had about 3 choices of string which was called marlin. The marlin had something that it was soaked in before we got it which made it a little waterproof, anyway it had a texture to it. The largest was about 1/8" in diameter. This stuff was usually kept in the paint locker. With the 1/8" diameter marlin you wrapped stantions and things like that and it made them look pretty good. When you were a seaman second class you learned a lot about seaman ship and how to tie all of the knots and to take a white twine and wrap it on things like handles for doors. It made the handle less slippery and you used some neat knots to secure it to the handle. Then you painted it white and it stayed white for a long time because the paint soaked into the white twine. Some of the knots looked really good and took a while to do them.
Last Edited By: Gene Slover
8-May-2008 17:33:01.
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Posts: 1198 ( 8-May-2008 21:14:48) |
Dive! Dive! Dive!
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Gene Slover |
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Posts: 6282 ( 8-May-2008 22:38:13) |
In case I was not clear the 8"/55 rapid fire gun and the 16"/50 gun were the only guns that ever got the neoprene gun bucklers.
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