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IcelofAngeln wrote:I agree with the above, that this is classic Trump: the key is that the theater is what counts, not the substance. All Democrats and many Republicans don't seem to understand this.
It's just like the F-35/F-18 affair: throw tantrum, freak out complacent bureaucrats and contractors, budgets/timelines improved, mission accomplished.
May 15 17 5:25 PM
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May 15 17 5:43 PM
Steve Crandell wrote:Why should we believe him when he says he wants to convert the carriers to steam catapults? You already said we should not take him literally. How can you take anything anyone says at all if you can't believe him literally? You seem to be saying that you have to have an emotional connection to him that you just have to believe in him just because he is wonderful and has your best interests at heart.
May 15 17 5:48 PM
May 15 17 6:06 PM
Jay Tea NH wrote:Steve Crandell wrote:Why should we believe him when he says he wants to convert the carriers to steam catapults? You already said we should not take him literally. How can you take anything anyone says at all if you can't believe him literally? You seem to be saying that you have to have an emotional connection to him that you just have to believe in him just because he is wonderful and has your best interests at heart.(sigh) Yes, Steve, Trump's a liar.Hillary is a liar. Obama is a liar. Biden is a liar. I'm a liar. And you're a liar, too.
May 15 17 7:15 PM
May 15 17 7:38 PM
OldNick wrote:EMALS catapult - Presume the Admirals are making the appropriate weekly sacrifices to the seagods for a favourable outcome, spending more on R&D, current total R&D budget for the Ford is only $5.5 billion, otherwise if EMALS doesn't work the Ford may turn out to be a very expensive paperweight.
DOT&E 2016 report.
As of April 2016, the program estimates that EMALS has approximately 400 Mean Cycles Between Critical Failure (MCBCF) in the shipboard configuration //well below the requirement of 4,166 MCBCF// At the current reliability, EMALS has a 7 percent chance of completing the 4-day surge and a 67 percent chance of completing a day of sustained operations as defined in the design reference mission. Absent a major redesign, EMALS is unlikely to support high-intensity operations expected in combat.
The crew cannot readily electrically isolate EMALS components during flight operations due to the shared nature of the Energy Storage Groups and Power Conversion Subsystem inverters onboard CVN 78. The process for electrically isolating equipment is time-consuming; spinning down the EMALS motor/generators takes 1.5 hours by itself. The inability to readily electrically isolate equipment precludes EMALS maintenance during flight operations, reducing the system’s operational availability.
May 15 17 7:54 PM
Steve Crandell wrote:
You are saying that if there is combat or other damage to one cat which involves an electrical short or similar problem that it cannot be electrically isolated from the system? That if one cat is damaged the entire ship loses the ability to launch aircraft? Or just that you can't fix the cat that is down? I don't understand why that would be either. If the cat has no power to it, why can't you work on it?
May 15 17 8:29 PM
Steve Crandell wrote:In any case, this has become a political discussion and I will stop before the moderator jumps all over me.
May 15 17 8:53 PM
In 2014, testing discovered excessive EMALS holdback release dynamics during F/A-18E/F and EA-18G catapult launches with wing-mounted, 480-gallon EFTs. During test launches, the stress limits of the aircraft were exceeded. Testing also discovered similar problems with 330-gallonEFTs and with end-of-stroke dynamics that affect heavy wing stores. The program has developed fixes, but testing to verify the fixes on manned aircraft has been delayed until 2017 on F/A-18E/F and EA-18G and until 2018 for F/A-18A/B/C/D.
Jay Tea NH wrote:Here's a bit of wisdom I picked up during the campaign that has proven its truth over and over:
Trump haters take him literally, but not seriously.
Trump supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
Applying that filter, it's apparent Trump is not happy with the current status of the EMALS program. The particulars of his criticisms don't matter; the heat is what does matter. Trump's message is "this is a mess; make it better." The mention of the steam catapults is saying that he wants General Atomics to not feel too secure about their contract; they've been falling short for some time without any real consequences, but those days are over.
Trump's not a general, he's not an admiral, he's not a a career pol, he's not a bureaucrat. He's a businessman and a showman. That's the style that has served him well his whole life, even getting him the presidency. Why the hell would he change what's worked for him so well?
At least, that's how I'm seeing it.
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