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IcelofAngeln wrote:Well, no, I'm not sure. There's the thing. The CO's after action report called it a 500-kilo SAP, but the assessment at the yard in Norfolk was amended to call it a 1000-kg. The thing is, it almost certainly hit during the second attack wave ~1240 hrs. These were dive bombing attacks, and according to the CO were "two formations of Junkers 87 with German markings." Problem here is that the Stuka then in service couldn't possibly accommodate the PC-1000; even if it could lug the weight, the bomb-crutch was too small for it.* OTOH, the "high-level bombing" attack definitely didn't happen until an hour later, and did no damage. Maybe it was a JU-88 used as a dive-bomber; I can't think of any other explanation - although surely the one aircraft pulling out low over the deck couldn't be confused with the other, one would think! (Other than one possible explanation- "Hit No.6," originally reported by both Illustrious' captain and the US survey team as a 500kg, was revised upwards so as to occlude a rather embarrassing deck penetration by a bomb the deck was supposed to defeat)
*While the Ju.87B-2's ordnance payload is usually given as 1000 kg, that meant a centerline 500kg with two 250kg under the wings
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alecsandros wrote:STG2 used only 250kg bombs both for training and for the actual attack on HMS Illustrious.
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alecsandros wrote:ST2 used Ju87s model B, which could only carry the 250kg bomb.
In the attack there were also Ju87s from ST1, which were type R, with a more powerfull engine, capable of carrying the 500kg bomb.
The damage report lists 500 and 250kg bombs, indicating hits potentialy made by both Staffels.
However, German accounts put more weight on ST2's results, and it isn't clear if ST1 actualy scored hits or not (as it had fewer planes and most were attacking other ships and not Illustrious). Another matter to consider was the problem that the 500kg bombs brought: a drop in range and manouvreability (already poor) of the Stukas. That's why typical attacks by Ju87Rs were done with 250kg bombs as well (and during prep for attack on Illustrious they trained with that bomb, and not the larger one, which was more expensive and rare anyhow).
IMHO the case remains opened, lacking more accurate details over ST1s actual materiel used and achievements actualy obtained that day.
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alecsandros wrote:Mmm, Hozzel was leading ST1, and Ennecerus ST2.
ST2 is credited with most (if not all) of the hits, and ST2 was equipped with 250kg bombs.
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They had the SBe250, with about 40kg TNT filler, and reinforced walls. Don't have armor piercing data, but I suppose it was considerable.
The SD250 have various perforations given, depending on angle of fall. At 60degrees they are around 30mm, but at 90 degrees they are close to 100mm.
The Stukas are reported as attacking between 65 and 80 degrees angles of attack against Illustrious (!).
Both the SD250 and SBe250 had multiple fuzes which could be contact or delayed type.
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