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Oct 31 16 4:53 AM
sealordlawrence wrote:And that different opinion is completely wrong, the giveaway should have been how shallow the analysis was once you went beyond the history lesson. For example it missed the fact the Su-33s have been fitted with a new bombing computer and reportedly more powerful engines to allow them to engage in strike missions. It also missed how challenging it is to develop and then run an airbase in Syria for the Russians.
If you think this deployment is about engaging in a naval battle with Nato forces then yes, its pointless, but if you look at it in the context of Russian operation in Syria it is very practical indeed.
Oct 31 16 5:54 AM
Dilandu wrote:// Analysis: Russian Carrier Deployment to Syria is Propaganda, not Practical//
Both, actually. It IS propaganda, and it IS practical)
Oct 31 16 8:29 AM
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Nov 7 16 6:56 AM
Dilandu wrote://On a ship that is known to have engine problems, and in a Navy with very shoddy maintenance practices? The Admiral K is pretty much threatening to break down every time it sails. //
Well, she was reboilered a few years ago, and repaired recently in early 2016, so her engines are fine. But yes, she skipped a large overhaul since she was comissioned. She would probably be overhauled in 2018-2020, as soon as works would be finished on two recomissioned "Kirov"-class battlecruisers.
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Nov 8 16 12:34 AM
Generally yes; but her wing was refitted with Mig-29K strike fighters, so now she have decent strike capabilities.
Nov 8 16 2:05 AM
Nov 8 16 6:20 AM
jua wrote:I can't imagine that running an eight ship task force 10,000 miles is cost effective compared to either basing another dozen planes in Syria or flying backfires from Russia. Ditto the helicopters. But if its combat experience they want then that is the way to get it.
Nov 8 16 6:47 AM
mnztr wrote:jua wrote:I can't imagine that running an eight ship task force 10,000 miles is cost effective compared to either basing another dozen planes in Syria or flying backfires from Russia. Ditto the helicopters. But if its combat experience they want then that is the way to get it.The US has airbases EVERYWHERE yet they still use carriers and carrier strikes even when there are hundreds of land based planes close by... please explain....
Nov 8 16 6:55 AM
Nov 8 16 6:59 AM
klixrulz wrote:So why can't the Russians use that argrument? mnztr's basic point still stands. If the USA deploys carriers to support operations with dubious allies why can't Russia?
Nov 8 16 7:19 AM
Steve Crandell wrote:klixrulz wrote:So why can't the Russians use that argrument? mnztr's basic point still stands. If the USA deploys carriers to support operations with dubious allies why can't Russia?Of course they can.
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Russia’s aircraft carrier group is ready to launch strike on Aleppo in the next 24 hours
Nov 08 2016 -
By David Cenciotti
Russia’s MOD has just announced that Kuznetsov aircraft carrier group prepares to strike Daesh targets in the province of Aleppo. Here’s from where.
The only Russian Navy aircraft carrier has eventually arrived in the eastern Mediterranean Sea from where, along with the rest of its battle group, it prepares to launch air strikes on Syria.
Interestingly, the first raids are being announced beforehand.
Indeed, according to the State-run Sputnik News, Russia’s MoD told Gazeta.ru that the Adm. Kuznetsov group is going to attack “terrorists in the province of Aleppo in the next 24 hours. The attack, which will likely engage Kalibr cruise missiles, will target militants outside of Aleppo, and not the residential areas.”The naval group, includes among the others the Pyotr Veliky missile cruiser, the Severomorsk and Kulakov anti-submarine destroyers, and the Adm. Grigorovich Kalibr-armed frigate (believed the be the one that will be involved in the cruise missile launch). Reportedly, three submarines armed with cruise missiles (two Akula-class submarines and a diesel-powered Kilo-class sub) have joined the strike group in the deployment to the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
Nov 8 16 11:34 PM
AegisFC wrote:Dilandu wrote:
Generally yes; but her wing was refitted with Mig-29K strike fighters, so now she have decent strike capabilities.That carrier is still the worst of both worlds and the MiG-29K flown off a STOBAR still have hilariously low carry weights.
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