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jer6164niu |
china the largest navy in the world |
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Posts: 1 ( 9-May-2008 02:56:15) |
just out of curiosity what do you all think about this website any reality what so ever?
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Posts: 3735 ( 9-May-2008 03:06:50) |
jer6164niu wrote: "Largest" and "most powerful" are not identical. Discounting the portions of the PLAN that perform functions akin to the USCG, I'd
put the raw combat power of the PLAN at considerably less than that of the 7th fleet.
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Posts: 3560 ( 9-May-2008 22:03:01) |
emc wrote: concur. It all depends on how you measure "the largest". Two that are used frequently are comparing numbers (useless in determining combat capability) and gross tonnage (more useful as it weights to the navy with the larger ships - but still does not measure combat capability). I think at one time, and it may still be true, the US Army had (has?) a larger fleet in terms of numbers than the US Navy. Of course, they were counting rubber rafts for crossing rivers......
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Posts: 4647 ( 9-May-2008 22:51:09) |
That is the type of deceitful math used to confuse and bedazzle people.
I remember pictures of large Soviet ICBMs and SSBN, comparing them to smaller US systems. The graph completely ignored the critical statistics: Who could get the greatest number of warheads to the greatest number of targets closest to the aim points. The US was way ahead and wins on that.
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Posts: 3332 (10-May-2008 03:25:44) Commonwealth Moderator |
rhymes with roll
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Posts: 417 (10-May-2008 10:12:58) |
I remember reading through the Jane's 1996 warship manual. At that time, the Chinese had more hulls PCFG size or larger than the USN did, but there were
only about 15 DDGs and 20 FFGs or so. The rest were corvettes and missile/gun boats. Even with the Clinton budget cutbacks, the USN Pac fleet would have been
able to put the entire Chinese navy on the bottom.
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Posts: 113 (10-May-2008 12:37:30) |
jer6164niu wrote: Not sure about if the claim itself has any basis... but when you see the books advertised (scroll down a little way from the top of the page) there I've got to doubt the reliability of that website.
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Posts: 980 (13-May-2008 23:49:05) |
No doubt the claim will be proved 100% accurate when it is politically expedient for it to be true (i.e. "The Chinese Navy is the largest in the world
therefore we need another XXX billion dollars to revitalise the US armed forces to face this overwhelming threat)
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Cross648 |
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Posts: 71 (14-May-2008 00:54:39) |
Probably is the largest in the world, but as was noted its mainly gunboats and hydrofoils. Their main destroyers are mainly obsolete types and whilst they are
working on newer classes the Luda is still predominant. And a Luda is no match for a Burke or Tico. Same with FF's, the early Jangwei's are still the
most numerious and again are old ships with old weapons. Whilst yes new ones are coming into service there's not too many of them.
As Moskit said they will become a 'threat' when the USN is after funding. |
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Posts: 3570 (14-May-2008 06:10:23) |
Cross648 wrote: bull stuff. They already are a threat but only on a regional basis to their neighbors. They do, already, pose a threat to Taiwan. If you don't
understand that, you are deluding yourselves.
Republican; because not everyone can be on welfare.
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Posts: 985 (14-May-2008 18:45:52) |
Nightwatch2 wrote: Actually its pretty close to standard practice in terms of securing funding for future procurements and force levels, not only in the US but in other countries too (my observation from over 20 years involvement in some form or another in major procurement projects in a number of NATO countries, including the UK and USA) |
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