HMS Fearless
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Posts: 320 (13-May-2008 15:33:58) |
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Obi Wan Russell |
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Posts: 212 (13-May-2008 17:02:22) |
A sad sight. She had most certainly earned the right to be preserved as a museum, and one hopes Intrepid may yet be saved. She is at least in more or less
original configuration (though missing a few parts used to keep Fearless running, not least the stern gate). We do have a poor record on preserving our
historic ships. I'm still hoping we can get Hermes back in a few years when the Indians have finished with her...
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Posts: 386 (13-May-2008 21:31:55) |
Obi Wan Russell wrote: I would think that ex-Hermes is probably the most historically significant ex-RN ships, and hopefully the Indians would consider returning her to the UK rather than scrapping her in Alang? After all, as the Viraat has never been involved in hostilities in IN service, so she is far less historically significant, from the Indian standpoint, than Vikrant. Museum ships seem like a losing proposition in Europe, though, unlike the United States. |
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Obi Wan Russell |
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Posts: 215 (13-May-2008 23:41:36) |
Portsmouth has quite a collection of historic vessels with the Mary Rose, HMS Victory, and HMS Warrior. Hermes would be the crowning glory for the collection.
Heck we could complete the set and have Invincible too...
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jemb |
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Posts: 682 (14-May-2008 00:06:16) |
The WW2 USS Enterprise was scrapped in Japan in 1958. Most ironically sad would be if the Argentine 'scrap metal' company that first landed on South Georgia in '82 picked up Hermes/Viraat and Invincible. Hope not, but worse things have happened... |
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Per Mare Per Terram |
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Posts: 57 (14-May-2008 01:27:44) |
Obi. What do you mean by your reference to the Intrepid stern gate? The last time I saw both in the inner basin in Pompey after they had been taken out of
service they both had their stern gates intact. I can't recall us in Fearless taking Intrepid's stern gate - although we might have borrowed a few
parts!
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Obi Wan Russell |
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Posts: 216 (14-May-2008 08:35:55) |
Intrepid's stern gate was 'donated' to Fearless in the 90s, and I have photos of Intrepid laid up in no3 Basin at Portsmouth with her stern gate
missing. I suspect that Fearless's old gate was fitted to Intrepid when she was moved to the mud flats of Fareham creek, as it was probably taking up space
in the dock yard. The stern gate would probably be required to ensure Intrepid was watertight for her eventual tow to the Breakers yard. If you look in Neil
McCart's book 'Fearless & Intrepid 1965-2002' on page 172 there is a photo of Intrepid in Pompey no 3 Basin dated december 2000 that clearly
shows her minus her stern gate.
The WW2 USS Enterprise was as far as I recall scrapped in the USA, New Jersey I believe. The Argentine Scrap metal company did not scrap large ships, and only dealt in small scale things, mostly land based. Argentine ships (including their own carrier ARA Veinticinco De Mayo, ex HMS Venerable, ex HNLMS Karel Doorman) was scrapped at Alang in India in 1999. Health and Safety laws in 'civilised' countries combined with low prices for scrap metal preclude profitable shipbreaking, which is why it is done on the beaches of India and Bangla Desh primarily. |
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Per Mare Per Terram |
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Posts: 58 (15-May-2008 01:19:19) |
Thank you. After my time on board.
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