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Posts: 61 (29-Apr-2008 11:29:05) |
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Posts: 62 (29-Apr-2008 11:37:39) |
It seems that the Helsinki deal will indeed happen!
According to one of the croatian newspapers(the link is provided bellow, but sadly the article is in Croatian only ), the deal will be signed in less then a month, following a formal visit of
viceadmiral Hans Holmström of the Finnish Navy. The 2 corvettes are the FNS 62 Oulu and FNS 63 Kotka. The going price is 8 million euros. The ships will be
presented to the public on 18.09.2008, during the day of the Croatian Navy.
Any info regearding this from Finnish members. The article states that some Croatian officers were in Finland, testing the 2 ships. The article http://www.nacional.hr/articles/view/44953 P.S. Renamed the thread as it was more of a general discussion and less connected to the original title
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Posts: 12 (29-Apr-2008 19:43:39) |
There was news about this in Finnish media yesterday saying, that they will be sold for 6 million euros. The Chief of Defence Admiral Juhani Kaskeala will
visit Croatia 5-7th next month due to this deal.
There's also some talk with some quotes from a Croatian newspaper Slobodna Dalmacija saying, that the purchase of the 2 Helsinki-class ships will increase Croatian Navy's firepower by 50% and gives Croatia for the first time during their independence a chance to monitor the seas also from below the surface as well as locate and fight submarines if necessary.
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Posts: 63 (29-Apr-2008 20:18:55) |
Thanks, Vorklift! The only thing missing till now was a conformation from finnish media.
BTW, I'm interested in what shape those ships are. Any recent pictures?
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Posts: 730 (29-Apr-2008 21:49:26) |
Argosy23 wrote:
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Posts: 731 (29-Apr-2008 22:03:20) |
Vorklift wrote:
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Posts: 64 (29-Apr-2008 22:10:51) |
Any ASW capability is a SIGNIFICANT ASW contribution to the Croatian navy
Wiki lists a Simrad SS304 hull mounted sonar and a Finnyards Sonac/PTA towed array sonar for Helsinkis.
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Posts: 732 (29-Apr-2008 22:38:54) |
Argosy23 wrote:
If wiki is correct about the Helsinkis having a Finnyards Sonac/PTA towed array (similar to the towed arrays onboard the Raumas I think) they indeed have a significant ASW sensor capability, but apparently no other ASW weapons than depth charges. More photos of Oulu at shipspotting.com: http://www.shipspotting.com/search.php?query=Oulu+62&action=results (thanks to Hannibal) Regards, /Per --- One of Finland's ministers answered the question: "Which enemies has Finland?" The answer was: "Finland has always had three enemies: Russia, Russia and Russia."
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Posts: 13 (29-Apr-2008 23:55:29) |
Yes they have those sonars to my knowledge. That towed array sonar is supposed to be quite powerful as far as I've understood.
But yes they only have the two depth charge rails, so the ASW capability could be better, but as Croatia currently doesn't possess any ASW capability whatsoever to my understanding I guess it's a very welcomed addition to their arsenal. I wonder how big of a task it would be to add ASW rocket launchers on the deck to add more ASW firepower like the Finnish Rauma, Hämeenmaa and Kiisla classes have. Shouldn't be that expensive at least to my understanding. What comes to the ships shape they are very well taken care of and are in a very good condition. It was mentioned in a Finnish Navy related magazine Rannikon Puolustaja recently, that those two last Helsinki class ships are partly even in a better shape than the 10 years younger Rauma class and Finnish Navy keeps their ships in a very good condition generally. In the same magazine btw. they're saying that the whole Finnish Navy's underwater surveillance capability will drop now after the Helsinki class is decommissioned, so those sonars should be quite good indeed. The ship's air surveillance capability is quite a bit weaker though, than Rauma and Hamina classes have for example, but that's understandable as their radars are much older and their earlier planned upgrades were canceled after they decided to decommission the class.
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Posts: 65 (30-Apr-2008 08:24:19) |
Guys, thanks for your info. Can't wait till those ships arrive in the Adriatic!
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