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Posts: 8444 (29-Mar-2008 18:15:09) Wheat Boss |
As you can see from the announcement on the main page, Yuku says they've fixed the bugs in the threaded view. The Naval Help forum has been set to the
threaded view; I invite you to go and experiment and see if they really have fixed the bugs and made it something worth having.
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Posts: 1958 (29-Mar-2008 18:48:54) |
Hmm, I am not seeing threading, nor an option to activate it?
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Posts: 1682 (29-Mar-2008 19:53:49) |
My experience is that when clicking on the first message in a thread in the Naval Help forum, you get to see all the replies in the thread on a flat page, then
the box for the Quick Reply, and then below it is the tree with links to individual posts. If you click on a reply that has several other replies, you
similarly get all thsoe replies shown first, then a Quick Reply box, then the thread tree. IMO, with the way threaded view is implemented by Yuku, the
negative still outweighs the positive.
The fact that you needed to know was not known at the time that the now known need to know was known, therefore those that needed to advise and inform the Home Secretary perhaps felt the information he needed as to whether to inform the highest authority of the known information was not yet known and therefore there was no authority for the authority to be informed because the need to know was not, at that time, known or needed.
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Posts: 1959 (30-Mar-2008 17:20:20) |
hmm, here is what I see: Screenshot From this i don't even know how to follow your
instructions ...
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Pengolodh |
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Posts: 1683 (30-Mar-2008 17:25:15) |
But that screenshot is from this thread, which is in the Royal Navy Forum. The threaded view is only activated in the Naval Help Forum.
The fact that you needed to know was not known at the time that the now known need to know was known, therefore those that needed to advise and inform the Home Secretary perhaps felt the information he needed as to whether to inform the highest authority of the known information was not yet known and therefore there was no authority for the authority to be informed because the need to know was not, at that time, known or needed.
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Posts: 3371 (30-Mar-2008 18:20:28) Banned User |
That looks fine to me, however you might have to get rid of the pinned/fixed messages at the top of the board.
The "Yaku" thread will naturally be superfluous, but the "Royal Navy Minor News Thread" (which I like by the way) might have to be pruned every-so-often to stop it from overwhelming the "top" of the board - I am sure a simple solution can be found. I certainly would like the threaded option on this board. Thanks for the effort. . |
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Posts: 358 (31-Mar-2008 20:05:16) |
Does anyone really want this threaded view option? Why click on each and every post when you can simply scroll quickly through a thread? The great mystery is
why the threaded view debate seems to continue? Why not just leave the forum format alone? Sure, you can't post attachments, which limits the new content,
but it could get much worse with this threaded view nonsense.
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Pengolodh |
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Posts: 1685 ( 1-Apr-2008 00:27:06) |
What I want is how it was at ezBoard - there each user him-/herself could choose whether to view the board threaded or in page view. With the set-up of
threaded view at ezBoard, there were advantages to me for the way I read the forum - for one thing, I could see by the colour of the links whether I'd read
a specific reply or not, and for another, as there were "New Post" icons next to each new reply when using the thread view, I could see both where to
go to read the new stuff, and take note of which threads I'd once read but had abandoned. Another advantage to threaded view was that when a shouting match
between two individuals erupts, it becomes its own little subthread, and people who want to ignore it can just skip clicking those links. With a page view, I
feel compelled to open the page to see if someone else than the people in the shouting match perhaps added something worth my time, and then I can't get
out of getting somewhat in touch with the shouting match. Finally, the thread view allows me to more easily see who is replying to who. And if I for some
reason wanted to view the threads in page view instead, all I had to do was to click a link.
The threaded view used by Yuku is implemented in a strange fashion, though, which fails to convey these advantages, while it does convey some of the disadvantages of threaded view (including the effect on screen real estate). The by far most annoying part of it, is that it seems individual users can not choose for themselves what format to use - the board owner and moderators has to make the choice for everyone. Another thing is how messages are viewed in threaded Yuku - when clicking on the first message in a thread, one first sees a page with all the messages of the thread shown chronologically, rather than in the thread-context, then a box for writing a quick reply, and then the thread tree. This means that threaded Yuku does not show as clearly who's replying to who, since the display of the messages and the display of the thread tree are out of sync. Last I checked, there were no New Post icons next to new replies, only next to the original post of each thread, so I still have to guess where the new reply is, particularly if I, after reading the thread, have forgotten to go clicking all the links on the thread tree (which can happen, since all the posts are shown at the top when I open the thread). I am one of those who want threaded view as it was on ezBoard - but threaded Yuku to me offers few or none of the advantages I want from threaded view, and keeps all of the disadvantages. In my view, threaded Yuku as it stands now is not worth the switch, particularly not when it is a choice inflicted on all users by the owner/moderators, rather than an individual preference setting in the user's Accounts Preferences.
The fact that you needed to know was not known at the time that the now known need to know was known, therefore those that needed to advise and inform the Home Secretary perhaps felt the information he needed as to whether to inform the highest authority of the known information was not yet known and therefore there was no authority for the authority to be informed because the need to know was not, at that time, known or needed.
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Posts: 1489 ( 1-Apr-2008 01:43:26) |
Exactly!
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I have been thinking the same thing since this Yuku thing started. You just expressed it better than I could have. So, in summary, what he said! |
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