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Gunnersmate04	So then	#31	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 39 (14-Jan-2008 16:00:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It was the first ever nuclear powered ship, just wasnt the first "warship". GUNNER
Fermi2	Yes	#32	[-]
Posts: 3087 (14-Jan-2008 19:01:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Correct. Last Edited By: Fermi2 14-Jan-2008 19:05:12. Edited 1 times.
BSmittyVA		#33	[-]
Posts: 40 (17-Jan-2008 18:55:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Getz wrote: BSmittyVA wrote: Omega4179 wrote: Check the Tank program I think the Tiger and Challengers made the top 3 Only two of the Top 10 were American (M-1 and Sherman). I've not seen that program, and if I had I might have been a little mopre moderate in my opinions, but even so there are some damn odd comparisons in there. Fair enough for the granting the T34 top, but if we're going to mention the Abrams and Challenger, why no the Leopard 2 and Leclerc with most NATO observers believe to be superior. Also, the Pz IV and Tiger are in there, but no mention of the Panther? Additionally, some of the comments are rather off base - for example, the T55 was the best tank in the world when it appeared, but get rubbish Fear factor because of it's performance 50 years after it's introduction to service, the PzIV is knocked for ease of manufacture despite being a relatively easy tank to manufacture, etc, etc. However, ultimately there isn't much getting around the fact that the US has only ever designed two tanks that were ever really any good - the M4 and M1! It's the Programs about planes and helicopters and ships and guns that are the real culprits... The M4 wasn't great by the end of the war, but it was available in numbers that made up for it's shortcomings. On the Leopard 2 and Leclerc, my guess is they were knocked because they haven't made a lasting impact in actual combat operations, regardless of their individual merits. The M1, Challenger and Merkava (to a lesser extent) have. The Panther likely didn't appear just because it's a top 10 list, and there were enough other tanks of greater significance.
MK45GMG	QE BB's	#34	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6 (23-Feb-2008 04:56:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, they were and if they hadn't I probably would have kicked my TV screen in!
MK45GMG		#35	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7 (23-Feb-2008 05:13:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Really, those Top Ten (Pick your weapon) are popularity contests. They state at the beginning of the show "based on expert opinions and audience polls". The Top Ten Ship episode was OK but really does the Graf Spee or for that matter the Bismarck belong in the top ten? What kind of stat is "fear factor"? Last time I checked Fear Factor wasn't used in Jane's Fighting Ships! Please don't flame spray me too much for the Bismarck coment but she did make it into "The World's Worst Warships". The Tank episode was more of the same, the Panther should have been included as should have the M47/M48/M60. My grandfather worked at the Detroit Tank Arsenal and loved the M48 but hated the M60! Scott

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