Any predictions/speculations as to what might be there fates in the future???? Transfers to other Navies? Scrapped? Mueseum ( Invinisible? )
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 Para629 |
Invinible, Illustrious and Ark royal???? |
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Posts: 110 (14-Jan-2008 06:25:15) |
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Jim WH |
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Posts: 822 (14-Jan-2008 08:44:39) |
10 to 1 odds that they're all scrapped. Slimmest of possibilities that Invincible becomes a Museum ship (although I sincerely doubt it).
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Alisdair Gillespie |
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Posts: 2432 (14-Jan-2008 10:49:44) |
I would have thought there is absolutely no chance of her being a museum ship. People keep raising this as if it is simply a case of mooring a ship next to
some convenient space and then forgetting about it. The costs of upkeeping HMS BELFAST are significant - can you imagine how much the cost of keeping a CVS
would be? There are not enough people who would be interested enough to visit the ship to come anywhere close to the upkeep required. The government, and
certainly the MoD/RN, should not have to pay for the costs.
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jock |
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Posts: 904 (14-Jan-2008 14:50:45) |
Agree there is almost no chance that any of the 3 will see anything else other than Alang or similar. If a carrier were to be preserved then personally I would prefer it to be Hermes when the Indians are finished with her. Having said that, given the lifespan of some American carriers Ark could be only half way and could continue for another 2 decades if the desire is there (in her 2ndry LPH role), the Americans get 40 years+ out of their carriers, no reason the RN shouldn't either. Frances J.D.Arc another example of longevity
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CliffS |
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Posts: 422 (14-Jan-2008 15:33:31) |
jock wrote: She'd need a lot more TLC than is available right now to achieve that goal. The USN can share the workload amongst a dozen or so hulls, so their life expectancy is longer. Jeanne D'Arc had a long holiday from NATO deployments during the '70s and '80s, doing nothing more strenuous than training duties. She still looks good - although how they support that ancient steam plant is a mystery. It must cost a fortune to maintain it. Cheers, Cliff |
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Sunk at Narvik |
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Posts: 2160 (14-Jan-2008 16:31:20) |
Size plays a big part surely? Structural members on a giant US carrier presumably carry less stress? The motions are gentler again due to sheer size of a 330m
hull. Contrast with a Vinny bobbing up and down....
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jock |
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Posts: 905 (14-Jan-2008 19:03:24) |
Sunk I'm not disagreeing with what either you or Cliff say. My point is the Americans and others do get a lot more longevity out of their ships than the
RN do where after 20-25 years its typically binned.
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Alexius55 |
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Posts: 213 (14-Jan-2008 20:35:21) |
As for selling- is there a market for an LPH or STOVL carrier? Of the countries who have ended up operating British carriers:
Italy, Spain, Australia and India have enough- or will have once their current projects are finished. The Netherlands couldn't man one. Argentina would be foolish. That leaves Canada and Brazil. Brazil might want an LPH, but perhaps not one almost as big as their carrier! Canada is even more doubtful- they have no landing vessels at all, and Invincible is 5 times the size of their largest warship. So resale prospects look slim... |
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seasick |
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Posts: 4302 (14-Jan-2008 20:51:59) |
The metals market riding high on Chinese and Indian consumption. The scrappers will be eager to get their hands on the Invinsible, Illustrious, and Ark Royal.
The RN will get a good price for them. Chop Chop
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