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Jun 2 17 8:06 AM
Jun 2 17 9:06 AM
And yet they were happy enough with the concept to order Ibuki after to Tones. I thought Fujimoto committed suicide
Jun 2 17 10:25 AM
TOS1956 wrote:..... the only non IJN rebuild on a similar scale I can think of is HMS London and IIRC that was considered a failure. .
..... the only non IJN rebuild on a similar scale I can think of is HMS London and IIRC that was considered a failure. .
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Bellerophon wrote:Why was London re-built?
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Jun 2 17 10:38 PM
Phil Gollin wrote:TOS1956 wrote:..... the only non IJN rebuild on a similar scale I can think of is HMS London and IIRC that was considered a failure. . Yes and no.When originally delivered she was unsatisfactory, but after a refit (including strengthening) she was regarded as a favourite for flagship duties, and was used a lot on the Russian convoys steaming a lot in very poor seas. She continued in use post-war (the only other County so used was Cumberland which was only used as a trials ship).
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Jun 12 17 5:54 AM
F106Delta wrote:Note that all classes of IJN heavy cruisers had only 25 mm (1 inch) thick turret armor, not just the Mogamis. So I doubt that feature was specifically related to the topweight problems of the Mogamis. My guess is that they did not consider it feasible for any of their cruiser classes to armor the turrets to withstand 6 or 8-inch gunfire, and therefore settled for minimal splinter protection in order to use the saved weight elsewhere. A bad decision IMHO. There were several instances of IJN heavy cruiser main battery turrets being knocked out by USN 5-inch AA Common hits.
Ummm...I don't think it was a bad decision, given the expected combat environment of long range gunnery and torpedo shooting out of sight of land. In that case you've gotta get a hit on the turret itself to neutralize it, with an eight or six inch gun. A real risk, and a ship could probably expect to lose one or two turrets in a gun fight, but it probably would have anyway, for one reason or another, even if turrets were heavily armored. Enemy destroyers just weren't expected to get close enough.
In other matters, you guys make me spend way too much money on books. Of course I went out and bought LaCroix and Wells. Don't regret the purchase, but c'mon guys, can't you recommend books I can get on Kindle?
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MarkLBailey wrote:Depressing. Abe Books has a couple of copies of L&W for less than I paid for it new. It was a limited print run, and publication was only ever made possible by generous support by a wealthy individual.
Jun 12 17 7:27 PM
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