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eldritch wrote:I am more impressed by Harriett every time she speaks. Now we know that there are RAF pilots learning to fly the F35B, and that there is a submarine somewhere in the depths of the ocean. This gal is really on top of her job.
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HMDL1963 wrote:While criticism of the F-35 programme is by no means unprecedented, when it comes from Dr. Michael Gilmore (the former Head of Operational Test and Evaluation) this starts to become rather more difficult to dismiss I think:http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/weapons/2017/f35-continues-to-stumble.html?referrer=https://t.co/fVTzQWGeDp
Apr 4 17 4:38 AM
reiverman wrote:And yet I think I will dismiss it, especially as it is contained within a post from a professional whinger like you.
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OldNick wrote:Defense-Aerospace May 30, 2017, Giovanni de Briganti, looking into the murky world of F-35 costs, lot 9 buy of 57 a/c, 42 F-35As, 13 F-35Bs and two F-35Cs. Analyzed and lists in full all 46 contracts made public allocated to LRIP 9. 18 contracts awarded to Lockheed-Martin for airframe and related work, $8.77 billion; 6 contracts awarded to Pratt & Whitney for the F135 engine, $1.45 billion: 22 contracts awarded to Lockheed Martin for Lot 9 upgrade and retrofit required to bring the aircraft to required performance levels, $1.67 billion.
The average cost of the F-35 a/c $206.6 million ea. The F-35B would be more expensive as ~30% + cost than the F-35A.
To further muddy the waters follow-on LRIPs costs will be more difficult to allocate. "It is also worth noting that JPO has begun to award contracts covering work on two or more LRIP lots, and has also announced “handshake” contracts that are not followed up by a properly formatted – and Congressionally-mandated – contract announcement.
There is no obvious reason for switching from the previous lot-by-lot contract award, except to make it impossible for outside observers to tally the cost of each lot, and thus work out the average unit cost of the aircraft by lot."
Has been stated that Giovanni de Briganti is anti F-35 but hard to refute above costs as based on actual contract award values.http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/feature/5/184049/unit-cost-of-f_35s-delivered-this-year-still-exceeds-%24206m.html
$431,322,997 modification to the previously awarded Lot IX F-35 Lightening II advance acquisition contract () for the procurement of production non-recurring items. These items include special tooling and special test equipment items that are critical to meeting current and future production rates
$430,878,490 cost-plus-incentive-fee, fixed-price-incentive-firm contract for non-air vehicle spares, support equipment, Autonomic Logistics Information System hardware and software upgrades, supply chain management, full mission simulators and non-recurring engineering services in support of low-rate initial production Lot 9
$120,555,991 modification to the previously awarded low-rate initial production Lot IX F-35 Lightning II advance acquisition contract () to procure the non-recurring engineering effort necessary to develop build-to-print packages by variant (, , ), to provide Group A and Group A enabler provisions to support future Band 2/5 capabilities of the.
$64,500,000 modification to a previously awarded advanced acquisition contract (N00019-15-C-0003) for long lead materials and efforts associated with the production of the low-rate initial production 11 JapaneseF-35 air systems for the government of Japan under the Foreign Military Sales program.
$26,450,000 modification to firm-fixed-price delivery order 0031 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This modification provides for low-rate initial production Lot 9 air vehicle initial spares to include F-35 aloft spares packages required to support the air vehicle delivery schedule for the Marine Corps.
$16,497,297 modification to delivery order 0031 previously placed against basic ordering agreement N00019-14-G-0020. This modification provides for deployable spares packages in support of the low-rate initial production Lot 9aircraft for the Marine Corps.
$743,169,377 fixed-price-incentive, firm target and cost-plus-fixed-fee modification to the previously awarded low-rate initial production Lot 9 F-35 Lightening II advance acquisition contract (). This modification provides additional funding and will establish not-to-exceed (NTE) prices for diminishing manufacturing and material shortages redesign and development, estimated post production concurrency changes and country unique requirements. In addition, this modification will establish NTE prices for one F-35A aircraft and one F-35B aircraft for a non-U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) participant in the F-35 program.
$9,533,512 not-to-exceed, undefinitized modification to a previously awarded low-rate initial production Lot 9 F-35Lightening II advanced acquisition contract (). This modification provides for the delivery of hardware and engineering services for the government of Japan.
$137,834,819 modification to a previously awarded cost-plus-incentive-fee contract () to provide additional funding for affordability-based cost reduction initiatives in support of low-rate initial production Lot 9Lightening II .
$110,515,999 cost-plus-fixed-fee delivery order against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020) for the procurement and installation of 281 retrofit modification kits to incorporate into designated aircraft and supporting subsystems that are critical to meeting F-35 requirements.
$28,842,000 not-to-exceed, cost-plus-fixed-fee delivery order against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This delivery order provides for air vehicle retrofit modifications associated with the F-35 fuel tank overpressure engineering change proposal in support of the Air Force, and the governments of Australia, Italy, the Netherlands, and Norway.
$311,399,980 contract for undefinitized delivery order 5503 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020) for the F-35Lighting II Block 3F upgrade for the Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, and the government of the United Kingdom.
$17,599,996 not-to-exceed delivery order (550302) against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This order provides for the procurement of retrofit modification kits and associated engineering installation services in support of the Block 3F upgrade of two F-35 aircraft for non-Department of Defense (DoD) participants.
$47,000,000 for undefinitized delivery order 0026 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This order provides for non-recurring effort and integration tasks required to operate a hardware-in-the-loop laboratory used to build, modify, verify and validate, and distribute mission data file sets for the .
$101,970,569 for cost-plus-incentive-fee delivery order 0026 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This order definitizes a previously awarded undefinitized contract action and provides for additional non-recurring effort and integration efforts required in support of the F-35 Reprogramming Center West. Efforts will include the production of software data loads for laboratory testing, planning for verification and validation (V&V) test, conduct technical support of the test, design, build, and delivery of V&V modification kits and mission data file generation tools for the Foreign Military Sales customers.
$136,588,895 for firm-fixed-price delivery order 0001 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This modification provides for low-rate initial production Lot 10 air vehicle initial spares to include F-35 common spares; ,and F-35 unique spares; and aloft spares packages/deployment spares
$64,686,522 for firm-fixed-priced delivery order N0001917F0108 against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This order procures work on the integrated core processor in order to alleviate diminishing manufacturing sources constraints projected underproduction Lot 15 for the Air Force
$581,798,359 firm-fixed-price delivery order (0132) against a previously issued basic ordering agreement (N00019-14-G-0020). This modification provides for air vehicle initial spares to include F-35 common spares; ,and F-35 unique spares,
$109,563,735 modification to cost-plus-fixed-fee delivery order 5503 issued previously against basic ordering agreement N00019-14-G-0020. This modification provides for the procurement of 567 modification kits for offboard system hardware and turnaround assets, and also recurring labor for the completion of hardware and software upgrades in support of the F-35 Lighting III Block 3F upgrade
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Recently the paint scheme for all F-35s was simplified [IIRC amongst other things such as colour the 'stenciling has been removed] and I'll find a link to that report.... meanwhile: https://www.f35.com/in-depth/detail/the-finishing-touch-meet-two-engineers-who-specialize-in-stealth
"...The Human Element
The process of coating the F-35 is one of great finesse and refinement. It consists of several stages: sanding, priming, spraying precise layers of paint, meticulous touch-ups and final stenciling...."
"...If you’ve seen an F-35 flying, the saw tooth paneling is visible to the eye. Through a new coating system, the team was able to give the F-35 one uniform coat that saved a significant number of hours per unit in defects and rework. James Thistle was the first to suggest the new coatings, now referred to as the Z13 overcoat. It took five years and a lot of hard work to incorporate the new coatings. The team used AF-104 as a trial run with no issues, and James said it was worth the wait. The Z13 overcoat significantly reduces the need for many of the labor-intensive tasks that drove rework and repair hours up. As you can see from this infographic, the new F-35 coating being utilized in the coming months is a significant affordability initiative saving time and money while helping build a better aircraft...."
I refuse to pay PhotoUckit anything so go here: http://s98.photobucket.com/user/SpazSinbad/media/NewNewAllBum/F-35newPaintFinish2017forum.gif.html
How do I get a graphic in a NavWeaps photo allbum HERE? http://spazsinbad.warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/album
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