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wabpilot

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Nov 17 09 3:23 PM

No doubt, there will be a ship named for Slick Willie. Given Barry's feelings about nukes, I think the lead ship of the next class of boomers should be named the Barry Soetoro.

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kell553

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Nov 17 09 10:05 PM

Famous battles (much like fish for submarines) do not vote nor control budget purse strings. Once the whole ship-naming scheme fell into the realm of Politics (more or less starting with the 688 class SSNs) any hope for historical or meaningful names went out the window.
We have our Jimmy Carter submarine (I think as a way of getting the 3rd SSN-21 funded, but also to tie the name up just so it won't get plastered onto a CVN) and we have worked our way through reasonable POTUS names (Washington, Lincoln, JFK (again, a way to get that last non-nuke CV funded through a Democrat controlled Congress), Ike, Truman, Teddy Roosevelt (as mentioned the 3rd Midway class was FDR), Bush the elder, and finally the unelected but important placeholder Gerry Ford.
God forbid the next Class of CVN have a soon to be available and historically significant name like Enterprise.
Toss in the occasional important congress-critter (Vinson, Stennis) or other political animals who had the good fortune to serve as SECNAV (Curtiss Wilbur) or whatever and you can pretty much assure yourself that the Tycos will be the last class of ship with a coherant naming scheme (although they are trying to keep the Burkes in the vein of important Naval Leaders, hero's and CMH honorees.
As for the Virginia's...fewer States than planned number of ships so we can imagine a few LBJs and WJCs and perhaps even a Pattsy Schroeder (shudder; dear God no!) being tossed in the mix to get the funding, but also to tie up the name so you don't end up with a CVN getting to carry the name for the next 50+ years.

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Charlyieey

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Nov 22 09 5:48 AM

Steve2838 wrote:
America is not available. Been given to the newest class of LHAs. Admiral Halsey deserves one name for him more then Bush, Truman, Ford, or Ike

The way I look at it, Ike belonged--just as Nimitz did. Now, I realize that after Korea, Gen. MacArthur PNGed himself, even if he started Korea pretty well, but think if Ike was number 2 and Mac was number 3? And while I realize that John Paul Jones, and Farragut had tincans (pretty appropriate if you ask me), named after them, they would have been better served as part of the Nimitz class. Maybe General Pershing as well, to go with Gen. Ike.

drittal

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Nov 30 09 4:59 AM

I miss the old ways of naming them after great battles. Yorktown, Essex, Bunker Hill, Valley Forge...etc. I guess we do have the amphib carriers named after a few of the old ladies, but they don't get any of the spotlight. They have great names that the whole nation can rally behind. I just can't to excited about the USS Carl Vinson, Gerald R Ford, George H.W. Bush, etc...

San Mao An

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May 13 10 9:32 PM

Design & Preparations Continue for the USA’s New CVN-21 Super-Carrier

12-May-2010 18:24 EDT

USA’s Nimitz Class &
UK’s Invincible Class
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Budgets 2002-2011; Gates’ famous speech; More design work for CVN 78. (May 12/10)

Some nations have aircraft carriers. The USA has super-carriers. The French Charles De Gaulle Class nuclear carriers displace about 43,000t. India’s new Vikramaditya/ Admiral Gorshkov Class will have a similar displacement. The future British CVF Queen Elizabeth Class and related French PA2 Project are expected to displace about 65,000t (British) – 74,000t (French), while the British Invincible Class carriers that participated in the Falklands War weigh in at around 22,000t. Invincible actually compares well to Italy’s excellent new Cavour Class (27,000t), and Spain’s Principe de Asturias Class (17,000t). The USA’s Nimitz Class and CVN-21 Gerald R. Ford Class, in contrast, fall in the 90,000+ tonne range. Hence the unofficial designation “super-carriers”. Just one of these ships packs a more potent air force than many nations.

Nimitz Class cutaway
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As the successor to the 102,000 ton Nimitz Class super-carriers, the CVN-21 program aims to increase aircraft sortie generation rates by 20%, increase survivability to better handle future threats, require fewer sailors, and have depot maintenance requirements that could support an increase of up to 25% in operational availability. The combination of a new design nuclear propulsion plant and an improved electric plant are expected to provide 2-3 times the electrical generation capacity of previous carriers, which in turn enables systems like an Electromagnetic Aircraft Launching System (EMALS, replacing steam-driven catapults), Advanced Arresting Gear, and integrated combat electronics that will leverage advances in open systems architecture. Other CVN-21 features include an enhanced flight deck, improved weapons handling and aircraft servicing efficiency, and a flexible island arrangement allowing for future technology insertion. This graphic points out many of the key improvements.

DID’s CVN-21 FOCUS Article offers a detailed look at a number of the program’s key innovations, as well as a list of relevant contract awards and events.

CVN-21: Improvements and Innovations
Transitional Carrier: CV 77, USS George H.W. Bush
The CVN-21 Carrier Replacement Program [NEW]
CVN-21: Contract Awards & Key Events [updated]
CVN-21: Other Related Contracts and Events [updated]
CVN-21: Additional Readings and Sources
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San Mao An

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Jul 30 10 5:28 AM

Links at highlighted words:

Northrop Grumman lifts a pair of 195,000 pound diesel backup generators into the future USS Gerald R. Ford supercarrier, which is now 11% complete.

Plus a picture from the 1st link:

Title:	Diesel Generators
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Dimensions:	1397 (w) x 2100 (h)
File Size:	501.77 KB
Source:	Northrop Grumman Corp.
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Caption:

Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding in Newport News, Va. lifted two generators weighing over 195,000 pounds a piece into the aft section of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) on July 28. The generators supply backup power throughout the ship in the event that power is lost.

daetaku

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Jul 30 10 7:15 PM

I imagine that thing is REALLY hardened against foreseeable EMP threats. THAT ship would make a "tempting target" for those with EMP in their arsenal. The more high-tech they go, the less you have to directly hit one to constructively kill it. Even credible threats of nukes may be enough to keep one a a long distance. Then again, few adversaries have the quantity or ability to field threats, right?

emc

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Jul 30 10 9:14 PM

Sure; there's been at least two USS Langleys: CV-1 and CVL-27. How many other museum directors have had two major USN warships named after them?

steevy

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Jul 30 10 10:46 PM

Somebody let's the nuke geni out,they are in trouble.The US has more.(at least for now)

StevoJH

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Aug 2 10 10:49 AM

Steve2838 wrote:
Carter never even finish nuclear sub school.

He served on diesels, I don't think the USN even had nuclear submarines when he left the Navy.

Call your ships after whoever you want, but at least wait for the namesake to die first.

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Juramentado

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Aug 2 10 3:43 PM

Steve2838 wrote:

Carter never even finish nuclear sub school.

Um. There was no real "NPS" or Nuclear Power School until about 1953-1954 when Carter resigned. There were several nuc power training units, most notably Knolls Atomic in NY and what is now the Nuclear Reactors Facility in Idaho Falls. Note that Carter probably pioneered some of the training that contributed to the NPS establishment because he was slated to become the Engineering Officer aboard the Seawolf (there was a Seawolf in the '50s, not the same Seawolf lead class SSN today) and was training the enlisted cadre for the boat when his father fell ill and he had to resign to take over the family business.

OSCSSW

EMC I am pretty sure this reply is tongue in Cheek?

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Aug 6 10 12:48 PM

emc wrote:
Sure; there's been at least two USS Langleys: CV-1 and CVL-27. How many other museum directors have had two major USN warships named after them?

CV-1 was named for a pioneer of US aviation and as a new class I have no problem with her name.

CV-27 was named for a very historic ship that pioneered US naval aviation AND was sunk in battle.

IMNSHO Absolutely fits the very highest tradition for naming a USN fighting ship.

Matins

Nice gensets

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Aug 8 10 5:15 AM

I can't see the nameplate. Are those EMD gensets?

JBren1

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Aug 19 10 7:48 PM

Matins wrote:

I can't see the nameplate. Are those EMD gensets?

No, don't have the distinct appearance of EMD's, and these are much larger than 20 cyl 645 types used in previous carrier applications, if 195k lbs for the set. But, quick googling doesn't reveal the type. Perhaps it's a foreign supplier, and not thought beneficial by them or Northrop Grumman to call attention to that in press releases.

Joe

hoist40

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Jan 27 13 1:23 AM

Island for CVN 78 lifted on board, photo at link.

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsarchive/hii/pages/news_releases.html?d=10019462

emc

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Jan 27 13 3:08 AM

OSCSSW wrote:
emc wrote:
Sure; there's been at least two USS Langleys: CV-1 and CVL-27. How many other museum directors have had two major USN warships named after them?

CV-1 was named for a pioneer of US aviation and as a new class I have no problem with her name.

CV-27 was named for a very historic ship that pioneered US naval aviation AND was sunk in battle.

IMNSHO Absolutely fits the very highest tradition for naming a USN fighting ship.

I know who Langley was. His assistant, Manley did a great job with the engine, and is too often not credited with his work. While he was doing his pioneering (and unsuccessful) work in aviation, he was the Third Secretary of the Smithsonian. At the time, he was probably one of the most respected academics in the US, having invented the bolometer, and performed the first infrared astronomy.

Does anybody find it funny that the reddest of the US states are the most dependent on federal largesse?

Last Edited By: emc Jan 27 13 3:13 AM. Edited 1 times.

Cody2

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Jan 27 13 9:20 AM

Can we just have a law passed making it illegal to name any ship after any person.

That takes it out of the realm of politics, and the USN can adopt a systematic naming system. Then when Congress argues over what to name ships, they can just blame themselves for being unable to name it after people.

OSCSSW

Bad idea cody2

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Jan 27 13 3:25 PM

Cody2 wrote:
Can we just have a law passed making it illegal to name any ship after any person.

That takes it out of the realm of politics, and the USN can adopt a systematic naming system. Then when Congress argues over what to name ships, they can just blame themselves for being unable to name it after people.

Our Cans are named after naval heroes and, atleast in my opinion, they are people.

IcelofAngeln

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Jan 27 13 5:48 PM

Agree with combination of both Cody and Senior Chief: no ships named after actual people except tin cans, and those only after USN/USMC/USCG heroes (no politicians, ever).

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Cody2

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Jan 27 13 9:03 PM

OSCSSW wrote:
Cody2 wrote:
Can we just have a law passed making it illegal to name any ship after any person.

That takes it out of the realm of politics, and the USN can adopt a systematic naming system. Then when Congress argues over what to name ships, they can just blame themselves for being unable to name it after people.
Our Cans are named after naval heroes and, atleast in my opinion, they are people.

Problem is that as soon as you cross that bridge, you start finding politicians that also happened to be heros. Put Congress in charge of this, and they always seem to find a way to put their own names on it. After all, every Congressman is a hero in his own mind.

I'd be willing to forgo putting hero's names on ships, if that was the cost of preventing politicians from getting their names on ships. Make it fish, birds, battles, cities, states, rivers, bays, or what ever else. But never a persons name, if that's what it takes to keep Politician's names off.

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