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P3D	LT-verse cruiser killer	Lead	[-]
Posts: 731 ( 1-Feb-2008 07:38:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	An economy cruiser killer for Germany. After the overview of the victorious battles in Letterstime, it was determined that Germany has adequate number of large battlecruisers, and some smaller, but more numerous ship type is needed to hunt down RN ships. The result is the following ship, capable of 30 knots on13454t full displacement. Ersatz Roon, LT-Verse Armored Cruiser laid down 1915 Displacement: 10,542 t light; 11,083 t standard; 12,400 t normal; 13,454 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (531.50 ft / 531.50 ft) x 65.62 ft x (24.61 / 26.19 ft) (162.00 m / 162.00 m) x 20.00 m x (7.50 / 7.98 m) Armament: 8 - 8.27" / 210 mm 45.0 cal guns - 284.98lbs / 129.26kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1915 Model 4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread 2 raised mounts - superfiring 16 - 4.13" / 105 mm 45.0 cal guns - 35.62lbs / 16.16kg shells, 300 per gun Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1915 Model 16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 6 raised mounts Weight of broadside 2,850 lbs / 1,293 kg 6 - 19.7" / 500 mm, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m torpedoes - 1.294 t each, 7.761 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 7.09" / 180 mm 4.72" / 120 mm 5.91" / 150 mm 2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.79" / 20 mm - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80,257 shp / 59,871 Kw = 30.00 kts Range 8,000nm at 14.00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2,371 tons Complement: 586 - 763 Cost: £1.547 million / $6.186 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 675 tons, 5.4 % - Guns: 667 tons, 5.4 % - Torpedoes: 8 tons, 0.1 % Armour: 2,498 tons, 20.1 % - Belts: 931 tons, 7.5 % - Armament: 721 tons, 5.8 % - Armour Deck: 778 tons, 6.3 % - Conning Tower: 68 tons, 0.5 % Machinery: 3,040 tons, 24.5 % Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,209 tons, 33.9 % Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,858 tons, 15.0 % Miscellaneous weights: 120 tons, 1.0 % - Hull below water: 50 tons - On freeboard deck: 20 tons - Above deck: 50 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13,384 lbs / 6,071 Kg = 47.4 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11 Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m Roll period: 15.4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.506 / 0.516 Length to Beam Ratio: 8.10 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23.05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20.00 %, 25.20 ft / 7.68 m, 24.61 ft / 7.50 m - Forward deck: 30.00 %, 24.61 ft / 7.50 m, 24.61 ft / 7.50 m - Aft deck: 35.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m - Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m - Average freeboard: 20.55 ft / 6.26 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.8 % - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149.9 % Waterplane Area: 23,359 Square feet or 2,170 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 % Structure weight / hull surface area: 120 lbs/sq ft or 586 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0.94 - Longitudinal: 1.83 - Overall: 1.00 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
miketr		#1	[-]
Posts: 2830 ( 1-Feb-2008 07:58:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My own thoughts on the subject. Cöln, Germany CL+ laid down 1916 Displacement: 6,342 t light; 6,632 t standard; 7,265 t normal; 7,771 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 524.93 ft / 524.93 ft x 49.21 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load) 160.00 m / 160.00 m x 15.00 m x 6.00 m Armament: 8 - 6.69" / 170 mm guns in single mounts, 149.90lbs / 67.99kg shells, 1916 Model Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, evenly spread 4 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1916 Model Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists on side, all amidships Weight of broadside 1,282 lbs / 582 kg Shells per gun, main battery: 200 4 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 406.82 ft / 124.00 m 8.43 ft / 2.57 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1.97" / 50 mm - - 2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm - - - Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 56,000 shp / 41,776 Kw = 30.05 kts Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1,138 tons (70% coal) Complement: 393 - 511 Cost: £1.094 million / $4.376 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 160 tons, 2.2 % Armour: 1,012 tons, 13.9 % - Belts: 409 tons, 5.6 % - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 % - Armament: 70 tons, 1.0 % - Armour Deck: 501 tons, 6.9 % - Conning Tower: 32 tons, 0.4 % Machinery: 2,228 tons, 30.7 % Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,811 tons, 38.7 % Fuel, ammunition & stores: 923 tons, 12.7 % Miscellaneous weights: 130 tons, 1.8 % Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 6,500 lbs / 2,948 Kg = 43.4 x 6.7 " / 170 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16 Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m Roll period: 13.7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.77 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.63 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak Block coefficient: 0.500 Length to Beam Ratio: 10.67 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22.91 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length): - Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m - Forecastle (20 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m - Mid (50 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break) - Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m - Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m - Average freeboard: 20.51 ft / 6.25 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.1 % - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.7 % Waterplane Area: 17,212 Square feet or 1,599 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 % Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 412 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0.91 - Longitudinal: 2.28 - Overall: 1.00 Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Dave Bender	Economy cruiser killer for Germany	#2	[-]
Posts: 6041 ( 1-Feb-2008 15:08:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Economy cruiser killers are what you use if you cannot afford real BCs. Since the LettersTime HSF owns the only BCs in the Atlantic they do not require additional cruiser killers. What LettersTime Germany does need are CLs to accompany the BCs, for commerce interdiction using mines, torpedoes and gunfire. In other words LettersTime Germany needs a bunch of Brummer type CLs.

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