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Posts: 2099 ( 8-Apr-2008 19:02:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This Year Global Climate Has Nothing To Do With … Global Climate Change Posted by AJStrata on April 8th, 2008 The 'experts' on global climate change (the ones who think it is all driven by man's activities) have decided that 2008 doesn't count. They have decreed this year's global climate has nothing to do with Global Climate. You think I jest? The world will experience global cooling this year, according a leading climate scientist. … However, the World Meteorological Organisation insists that this year's cooling has nothing to do with global climate change. Is there anything more telling than a public display of denial and cooking the data? You can't just throw out data from one year because it violates your preconceptions and screws up your pet theories. First off, this is not the first time the data has not lined up with the wild predictions from the Church of Gore. The temperatures have not risen in ten years on average. And I doubt this is the only year we will see temperatures receding. Look at what this year has shown us global climate is capable of: According to the US National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) many American cities and towns have suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January "was - 0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 average." China is surviving its most brutal winter in one hundred years. Temperatures in the normally mild south were low for so long that some middle-sized cities went weeks without electricity because once power lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them. There have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past two months that the real estate market has been hurt as home buyers have stayed home. In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received 70 cm of snow, breaking the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set back in 1950. … Now, as a result of the recent record cold weather, the ice is back. According to Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year. The real news this year on the Global Climate front was that the models used to make all the dire predictions fictionalize Gore's brainwashing movies were wrong (can one fictionalize fiction?). What is busting these models? NASA Measurement from their latest Earth Observing Satellite called Aqua. Aqua is making long term measurements and the first results of their efforts was to show how the UN IPCC climate models are way off when it comes to modeling water in the air - a key factor when computing the heating/cooling processes of our atmosphere. Get the water content and dynamics wrong and you can't predict squat. For those interested in a brain burner here and here are Aqua science reports which showed the IPCC models are not working right. Maybe Gore can now make a movie about reality and not fantasy.
Nightwatch2		#1	[-]
Posts: 3498 ( 8-Apr-2008 19:27:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	well...... I suppose we could eliminate 2008 from the overall trend lines - if we were to also eliminate the El Nino and La Nina spikes in the past record on the same basis. Guess what trend line that produces? (evil grin!) after all, fair is fair!! Republican; because not everyone can be on welfare.
kell553		#2	[-]
Posts: 768 ( 8-Apr-2008 20:04:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What the excuse will be next year? and the year after? Noticed that rice as doubled in price in the last few months. China and india have put an export moratorium on rice. My filipina wife remarked that since she is a citizen now (her ceremony was last month...what were we thinking doing it the legal way???) she may as well swith from rice to potatos. I wonder how long the current Chinese Govt would survive in the face of a billion starving people?
jim3au		#3	[-]
Posts: 1422 ( 8-Apr-2008 21:26:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh dear! I had wondered when you two would notice that the temperatures are predicted to be low this year and next. You should take little comfort in the knowledge that the new improved climate models are now agreeing with your predictions that this year and next will be cooler than the trends. the new improved modelling still has global warming coming back on line and the world having the warmest year yet within five, or was it ten, with a ninety percent plus probablity. I came across all these articles while I was wondering through all these news articles trying to find xtvpry some new high temperature records. And no, I have not the slightest interest in posting links to these [many] articles. Now let me give you two a sobering thought. If the weather gurus [that you have been persistently deriding] are consistent in their predicting one sort of weather, how likely is it that they are wrong? Apparently La Nina is going to be more persistent than previously thought. If it hangs on until June, this years averages for much of the Northern Hemisphere will be down. I was hoping and looking forward to a hot August in the USA so that we could see how people felt about global warming when they were baking as opposed to when they are freezing. There is talk of it persisting right through August. If that happens, and most of America has a cool, wet summer, you fellows are going to wear yourselves out posting about "Inconvenient Truths". 2007 and was not that cool in the USA. It was the hottest year ever in the Russian Federation. So I am interested to see what the Northern Summer brings in the way of temperatures especially around the Arctic and North Atlantic.
kell553		#4	[-]
Posts: 770 ( 8-Apr-2008 22:13:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh dear! I had wondered when you two would notice that the temperatures are predicted to be low this year and next. Except that temps were actually predicted to be higher. It was only AFTER the drop was too great to ignore with no reversal in sight did the GW/CC crowd revise their numbers...much like the Huricane center had to keep revising their numbers when the AGW/CC spawned plethora of huricanes never materialized. As for the "new and improved" models, they are the same models that failed to show the temp decreases; the same "new and improved" models that still fail back-testing with historical climate data.
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Posts: 3500 ( 8-Apr-2008 23:56:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	kell553 wrote: Oh dear! I had wondered when you two would notice that the temperatures are predicted to be low this year and next. Except that temps were actually predicted to be higher. It was only AFTER the drop was too great to ignore with no reversal in sight did the GW/CC crowd revise their numbers...much like the Huricane center had to keep revising their numbers when the AGW/CC spawned plethora of huricanes never materialized. As for the "new and improved" models, they are the same models that failed to show the temp decreases; the same "new and improved" models that still fail back-testing with historical climate data. exactly!! This drop was NOT predicted by the models - it is a case of a blinding flash of the obvious (over a year drop from the El Nino peak) and two winters of record cold and snowfall that have finally been too obvious to ignore. The models all still project continuing rise and the entire CO2 driven hypothesis does not include this. Hence - FAILURE on the part of the AGW Hysteria crowd. Here is another news flash. According to the models - we should now be a full degree warmer than we are now. Another news flash - after a year of declining temperatures - and a decade of level average discounting the El Nino spike in 06 - the CO2 is now > > wait for it > > drum roll please > > DECLINING!!!!! http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MAUNALOA0308.jpg and THAT is in none of the atmospheric models which assume all of the increase is anthropogenic. That is because less than 4% of the CO2 is anthropogenic and the rest is natural which is a RESULT of warming ocean temperatures. The oceans have been loosing heat now for a decade which is now being reflected in lower atmospheric temperature averages and now - declining CO2 even while industrial production runs wild. ah yes. The next few years are going to be colorful watching the hysterics get even more hysterical trying to refine their fraudulant hysteria and keep the swindle going. Republican; because not everyone can be on welfare.

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