Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (jim3au) — Wed, 14 May 2008 01:04:26 GMT

Xtvpry, I guess that I will find out about what is happening in Lebanon eventually because I know some Lebanese. The things that stick out in the news reports as far as I am concerned is that Saudi Arabia is complaining at every level about Iranian interference. I would have expected them to be complaining about Syrian interference.

The author of this article is not a supporter of the Christian Lebanese or the Israelis.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:41:45 GMT

Saudi was paying money to Syria yes, and now Syria is closer if not very close to Iran, why? Because Iran has money and Syria found out that it could do things upsetting to the Saudi's after all. Killing Hariri the Saudis cut the cash, and Syria had two options, go the West (Russia was'nt as rich as it is now) or go to Iran for money. They chose Iran, and are now very much in hock to Tehran and possibly more than a little nervous of being ordered about by a Shia Theocracy of...

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:56:37 GMT

...nor would it surprise me if they used their influence with other Arab states to put pressure on Syria to leave.

And which Arab states would those be exactly? Jordon, UAE, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Yemmen, perhaps? Nope, don't think any of those have any influence over Syria or if they do, would they be prepared to use it in the way you think.

Saudi money found its way to the anti-Syria movement that pushed them...

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Tue, 13 May 2008 12:36:03 GMT

Saudi's orriginaly gave money to Syria to stabilise Lebanon, the killing of Hariri meant they pulled the plug on those funds, thats why Syria turned to Iran as its sole supplier of cash left.

Saudi always had to hold its nose in such dealings with 'heretics' like the Alawite sect and 'godless' Ba'ath Arab nationalists. When they assinated their chief banker it was a step too far. I would'nt be surprised if Saudi money found its way to the anti-Syria...

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Tue, 13 May 2008 07:15:42 GMT

What a lame post! Given the number of polititical assassinations which have clearly originated from Syria, it would seem that the Saudi influence, if it exists at all, is negligable.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (jim3au) — Tue, 13 May 2008 07:06:23 GMT

There are too many people competing for influence in Lebanon. That is why the place has been so unstable.

At little expense, a neighbour can put weapons and money into Lebanon and get them killing each other. Outside forces are using the poor benighted Lebanese to play their little games with. It is a game where they compete using real guns but not having any of the risk.

Lebanon used to be the Switzerland of the Middle East. Money and banking, trade, education, health...

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Sun, 11 May 2008 11:36:24 GMT

If the Saudi's have the influence over Syria that you think they have, Syria would have been forced to leave Lebanon long ago.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Sun, 11 May 2008 11:31:00 GMT

Rafik Hariri was banker the Saudi royal family, seems they run monies through Lebanon.
Killing him lead to the protests for Syria to leave, it also lead to some serious Saudi pressure on Syria.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Sun, 11 May 2008 11:27:05 GMT

Besides which Syria has to tread carefully here

Pardon me while I fall off my chair laughing!

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Sun, 11 May 2008 11:09:46 GMT

BS Wijnand, and pretty low of you.

Besides which Syria has to tread carefully here, Saudi has its influences in Lebanon.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Wijnand vd Beek) — Sun, 11 May 2008 10:52:30 GMT

"And the point of this post is...? "

It's all our fault, please don't blame the natives, they cannot bear any responsibility for their lives.

Cheers,
Wijnand

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Sun, 11 May 2008 05:23:59 GMT

And the point of this post is...?

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Sun, 11 May 2008 00:24:27 GMT

History, we gave what is Syria and the Lebanon to France under the Sykes-Picot agreement and against the advice of our man on the ground one T.E.Lawrence. France wanting to create a Christian state it could keep its fingers in took the Christian coast and made it a seperate state from Syria, but in the process to increase the population and give it some more territory, they added the muslim Bekaa valley.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Sat, 10 May 2008 21:00:08 GMT

Don't let the French add the muslim dominated Bekaa valley to make up the numbers in the creation of a seperate state from Syria.

Eh?

I thought the French Army were supposed to be protecting Hezbollah from Israel, along the border. I doubt if they would ever be allowed in the Bekaa Valley!

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Zen9) — Sat, 10 May 2008 19:44:46 GMT

Lesson of Lebanon? Don't let the French add the muslim dominated Bekaa valley to make up the numbers in the creation of a seperate state from Syria.

Re: The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (xtvpry) — Sat, 10 May 2008 18:44:26 GMT

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354865,00.html

Looks like the Lebanese Army are still in control. So it is not quite the catastrophe we thought.

Cheers.

The Lesson of Lebanon

feeds@yuku.com (Wijnand vd Beek) — Sat, 10 May 2008 12:33:01 GMT

Unfortunately Iran's thugs in Lebanon have raised their ugly heads again. Though it is hard to tell what this will result in for Lebanon, Pollak correctly draws one inescapable conclusion: "Islamic supremacist groups, despite their claims to the contrary, cannot be integrated into states or democratic political systems."

Wijnand