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        <![CDATA[ The Ministry of Defence has today, Thursday 8 May 2008, announced the provisional selection of Piranha 5 as the
preferred design for the Future Rapid Effect System (FRES) Utility Vehicle

What does anyone think of this. i thought the Piranha 5 would be picked as it is built by General Dynamics UK and the other 2 selections BOXER and
VBCI are built by German and French companies. here is the Wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Rapid_Effect_System  I don&#39;t know much about the... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Rolls Royce Marine has <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rolls-royce.com/marine/systems_solutions/ship_design/naval_support/fast_logistic.jsp">a couple of designs</a> for
fast logistics vessels with speeds in the 40 knots range, and range of 3000 nautical miles or so. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Some good points about the bolt-on armour, Trouble.
<br>
<br>
I think that the interest in wheels rather than tracks is down to such issues as higher road speeds, longer range, lower fuel use and better &quot;image&quot;
for PR purposes in limited conflicts (tracked vehicles always get called &quot;tanks&quot; by the media).
<br>
<br>
Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk">http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk</a>
<br>
and... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:12:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I do wonder, why not just buy more Warriors. They are loved, already being used in role and a new production run of IFV types, rather than the WLIP, would
allow existing vehicles to be taken out of the fleet, refurbed/converted to utility roles. There is a a persistent &quot;lets replace everything with something
new shiney and wonderfull with all the advances etc.&quot; which then takes years to arrive whilst just buying something piecemeal (as per UOR) actually gives
you what you need... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I think the idea is that most of the armour will be in effect &#39;clip on&#39;. The vehicle travels in light, and gets the rest buttoned on when in theatre.
The armour can therefore change over time. This is essentially what&#39;s happening at the moment in any case.
<br>
<br>
The important bit is to make the vehicle capable of taking the weight of that extra button on armour from day one.
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I agree that linking FRES to air deployability is now a stupid thing to do. The UK will never... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:08:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The C-130 transportable requirement for FRES was dropped a long time ago. It just has to be A-400M transportable now (and even that is pushing it a bit, once
the basic FRES Utility starts getting add-ons).
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<br>
IIRC the US has recently dropped the C-130 requirement for FCS as well. Experience in Iraq and Afghanistan has shown that vehicles need to be much better
protected than of yore, and the requirements just can&#39;t be met within C-130 weight limits.
<br>
<br>
Boxer was never likely... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (A G Williams)</author>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:13:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: British Army FRES utility vehicle has been selected  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ There arent enough planes to keep even a single regiment of armour in the field for very long!.
<br>
<br>
You wait for the boat or forget the armour! ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:30:16 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The boat takes weeks. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Why does FRES need to be air transportable?. Unless we want to use the whole RAF airlift fleet trying to keep armour supplied with fuel, lubricants, spares etc
after the initial deployment the logistics trail, from the UK, is going by boat.
<br>
<br>
Air deployment of armour works for short punch and hold missions, as in the old Soviet air assault model, only. Deploying vehicles in theatre with the intent
of supporting them over a protracted period is a job best done by sea transport so that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The FCS is a huge program but the vehicle part of it does look promising. We will have to wait and see what happens with FCS it seems like such a big project i
can imagine bits getting cancelled and delayed. I think the UK needs some FRES like vehicles just now but should wait for armor development. The main points of
FRES that are making it so heavy is the armor and this is affecting its air transportability. The UK should be pouring money into Armor research maybe using
light plastics or... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t know what the time scale for FRES is, but I&#39;d surprised the MOD didn&#39;t take a look at the similar FCS program.  BAE is involved, it has to
be C-130 transportable, and best of all you have a large unit order that someone else is funding. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <span id="AboutDefenceSummary_Summary"><strong>The Ministry of Defence has today, Thursday 8 May 2008, announced the provisional selection of Piranha 5 as the
preferred design for the Future Rapid Effect System (FRES) Utility Vehicle
<br>
<br></strong>What does anyone think of this. i thought the Piranha 5 would be picked as it is built by General Dynamics UK and the other 2 selections BOXER and
VBCI are built by German and French companies. here is the Wiki link <a target="_blank"... ]]></description>

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