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        <![CDATA[ OK - in 1944 the USN began the process of expanding the fighter complements of their carriers, up from 36 (organised as a single VF squadron?). Initially
around 18 planes were added, taking the total up to ~54. But the newcomers were designated as fighter-bombers, in a separate &quot;VBF&quot; unit.


I&#39;m curious about how this worked. How were the VBF pilots trained? Were they &quot;really&quot; fighter pilots or attack pilots (to use the modern term),
or a super combination of both?... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: USN CV fighter-bombers  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ If you want operational data you might want to look at
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.history.navy.mil/download/nasc.pdf">http://www.history.navy.mil/download/nasc.pdf</a>
<br>
<br>
A 3.6 Mb pdf file, &quot;US Naval Aviation Combat Statistics - World War II&quot;. One of my favorite sources, but a word of caution to double check the math
on anything you want to use. Calculation errors did creep in and can give you the wrong idea if you aren&#39;t careful. I put all the tables... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yup . . . Max hit it. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">StewartG wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  <span class="postbody"><br>
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  RLeonard - that sounds like a fantastic source for US squadron sizes / availabilities, is it available anywhere?
  <br></span>
</blockquote>

<p> Despite not being Rich, I can answer. It is available in non-searchable PDF files:
<br></p>

<p>http://www.history.navy.mil/a-record/ww-ii/loc-ac/loc-ac.htm
<br></p>Max
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			<description><![CDATA[ <span class="postbody">Thanks for the replies gents, this is interesting.
<br>
<br>
I discovered some fragmentary notes of my own on a related issue. These are from a 23 May 1945 document called BPF 932/Ops, which was an abstract of various
operational research reports done for Admiral Fraser. It includes some US numbers for the bombing efficiency of the VBFs:
<br>
<br>
Tons dropped per attack sortie: VF/VBF 13, VB 64, VT 77
<br>
Tons dropped per loss to AA: VF/VBF 10, VB 27, VB 39
<br>
<br>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Most of the VBF squadrons in already existing air groups were established in January 1945. A look at the
aircraft locations returns for full strength VF squadrons (and leaving out the working up squadrons with FM-2s in their inventories and VF training squadrons
such as VF-100 at Barbers Point, but including those noted as &quot;Ready&quot; but unassigned) in late November 1944 shows that there was an average of
slightly more than 53 fighters... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I tend to use &quot;I suspect&quot; to mean something close to &quot;I&#39;ve really no evidence, but I think that my limited knowledge of the subject causes
me to conclude...&quot;  I was not aware that USN carrier-based squadrons ever became as large as 24, let alone 90 aircraft.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">StewartG wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  OK - in 1944 the USN began the process of expanding the fighter complements of their carriers, up from 36 (organised as a single VF squadron?). Initially
  around 18 planes were added, taking the total up to ~54. But the newcomers were designated as fighter-bombers, in a separate &quot;VBF&quot; unit.
  <br>
  <br>
  I&#39;m curious about how this worked. How were the VBF pilots trained? Were they &quot;really&quot;... ]]></description>

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around 18 planes were added, taking the total up to ~54. But the newcomers were designated as fighter-bombers, in a separate &quot;VBF&quot; unit.
<br>
<br>
I&#39;m curious about how this worked. How were the VBF pilots trained? Were they &quot;really&quot; fighter pilots or attack pilots (to use the modern term),
or a super combination of... ]]></description>

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