Cruise Liners

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (Navaleye) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:37:40 GMT

I'll be sailing on the brand new 160,000t Independence of the Seas on May 2. I'll let you know if I see any features that can be carried over to CVF :-)

http://www.royalcaribbean.co.uk/independence_launch/index.php

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (Pengolodh) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:08:17 GMT

3 times the size? Am not so sure about that - at least, it depends strongly on what parameters you measure. The size of warships is given in displacement (the actual, total weight of the vessel) measured in tons, whether the long ton of 2240 lbs (ca. 1016 kg) or the metric tonne of 1000 kg (ca. 2204 lbs) - tonne is apparently more and more common in measuring displacement. Cruiseships are not measured in displacement, but - like most merchant vessels - in gross tonnage (GT), which refers to...

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (CVA02) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:21:43 GMT

hulahoop7 wrote:

Whilst appreciating that military ships require expensive ruggedised fit outs, and costly equipment.. I was still astounded today when I read that one of the cruise lines is to build a 250kton 350m liner - which includes every know luxury: cinemas, a park with tropical forest.. shopping centre.. fantastic cabins.. for some £700m. All that...

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (hulahoop7) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:27:28 GMT

Absolutely agree with both your analyses. But 3 times the size for 3 times less cost remains quite a stark comparison!

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (AegisFC) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:03:49 GMT

You have to design in a lot more damage control equipment and compartmentalization in a warship. You have more engineering equipment with built in redundancies, big heavy lift elevators, a wide assortment of electronics (radar, ECM suite, all the junk in CIC, all that stuff costs a LOT).
Their is a lot of specialized stuff in a warship that a civilian ship just doesn't need.

Re: Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (emc) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:47:54 GMT

It's the costly gear that any naval ship requires. All that "bling" is pretty cheap.

Cruise Liners

feeds@yuku.com (hulahoop7) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:01:22 GMT

Whilst appreciating that military ships require expensive ruggedised fit outs, and costly equipment.. I was still astounded today when I read that one of the cruise lines is to build a 250kton 350m liner - which includes every know luxury: cinemas, a park with tropical forest.. shopping centre.. fantastic cabins.. for some £700m. All that bling must also cost a few pounds? So how do we get from 1 CVF £2bn to 1 super-liner...