Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Mark F) — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:12:40 GMT

An economical frigate? I thought that was already done and goes by the name of MEKO.

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Psilander) — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:03:05 GMT

My suggestion.
Shortend Tawianese La Fayette armed with Harpoon SSM/ SLAM, 127mm OTO breda, goalkeeper and 4x2 cell vls for ESSM (32 missiles) and 2x 27mm Mauser guns.

Surf( airsearch radar is Ericson AMB, gun control is a Ericson Cersos gunsight, flank arrays for FC to ESSMs

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Dave Bender) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:47:18 GMT

Isn't that a contradiction?

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (E F Draaijers) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:03:25 GMT

I have to agree with Psilander, Aegis itself is quite expensive and since the projected ship lacks SAM capacity, appart from point defence, it is doubtfull the system has any function at all. Only the inclusion of SM-1 or so would justify Aegis. Since that is not the case, it can be abbandoned.

In general concept, the propposed vessel may look very simmilar to the already available Type-23 frigate of the Royal Navy and the German Brandenburg Class. Both do however have slighly...

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Psilander) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:16:15 GMT

Why use the AEGIS, isn't both quite old, expensive and to complex for a "budget ship".

I'd go with either Ericsom Giraffe AMB or a similar radar and CEROS FC which also can control ESSM (used in the RAN). for C2I system i'd buy a good one but not to complex to keep the costs down. C2I and sensors are the most expensive things on ships and for a buget escort AGEIS is just to much.

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Joshua Kintner) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:56:34 GMT

If you want to leave out radar-guided SAMs, you can drop AEGIS/SPY-1 and use one of the rotating phased arrays used in LCS and other low-end combatants (TRS-3D, Sea Giraffe AMB, MRR, etc.) Those are a much more economical match to a RAM-based air-defense suite. If you're relying on RAM, install two launchers (perhaps Sea RAM) for redundancy.

Went without the AEGIS (since I don't have anything other than Harpoons/Exocets and RAMs anyways) and...

Re: Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (taschoene) — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:58:35 GMT

Joshua Kintner wrote:

Basic concept was to come up with a frigate capable of operating in say, the Persian Gulf, that would be economical and a simple ship, and she is similar in apperance to the Oliver Hazard Perry class FFGs, but different in some ways. Her armament consists of an OTO Melara 3" gun forward, and two Bushmaster 25mm cannons aft for gun armament, while two quad launchers in "B" position, with...

Economical Standard Frigate, 2005

feeds@yuku.com (Joshua Kintner) — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:42:46 GMT

Basic concept was to come up with a frigate capable of operating in say, the Persian Gulf, that would be economical and a simple ship, and she is similar in apperance to the Oliver Hazard Perry class FFGs, but different in some ways. Her armament consists of an OTO Melara 3" gun forward, and two Bushmaster 25mm cannons aft for gun armament, while two quad launchers in "B" position, with either MM38 Exocet or the lightweight version of Harpoon being used. Finally, there is a...