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        <![CDATA[ While I don&#39;t know how to design a ship perhaps you can help.


Lets say events unfold where the following are the facts.


Destroyers have been a major difficulty for operations of several types.


The current light cruisers were resonably successful at this task but fell victim to heavy cruiser fire.


This new ship is not designed to counter heavy cruisers but has to operate in an environment that is heavy in both destoryers and cruisers.


This ship is not a destoryer leader but is... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
			<link>http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/reply/71645/t/A-dedicated-destroyer-killer-to-work-in-with-other-ships-.html#reply-71645</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Super destroyers were very common, especially around the med littoral.
<br>
<br>
Even the major navies built their 1850 ton late 1930&#39;s destroyer leaders/superdestroyers/destroyer destroyer.
<br>
<br>
Any cruiser or destroyer has to face the fact that it&#39;s likely to engage any combination of enemy cruisers and destroyers. Only the capital ships are
screened and treated with kid gloves (sometimes). One way to resolve this issue is to build 16,000 ton cruisers with 6in armor. Another is... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:00:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ If you follow this argument to its logical conclusion then your &quot;destroyer killer&quot; will soon become a 50,000 ton Iowa class battleship. Which is ok
for the U.S. Navy with their unlimited budget. Everyone else needs to make some tough choices based on what they can afford.
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/spahkreuzer/tech.html">http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/spahkreuzer/tech.html</a>
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An argument... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:59:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Even if you don&#39;t engage a Heavy does not mean that one does not try and engage you. Lets say you are in a unit with 3 Baltimores and one light cruiser and
maybe 6 destroyers. Your unit perhaps is engaged by 4 heavy cruisers and 10 destroyers. Your light cruiser is needed to blunt the charge of those 10 destroyers
so it has to participate. Just because it does not engage one of the heavies does not mean one of the heavies does not engage it. The added armor might give it
just enough... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:51:05 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ This is a matter of operational doctrine. If it is clearly understood that a 7,500 ton CL has no business engaging CAs then it should not be an issue. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Wouldn&#39;t the cruiser armament lead it in to the same miscalculation as many BC captains, getting into a fight against something it&#39;s not armored
against. Perhaps arm it with destroyer armament but plenty of it, for example 12x12,7 cm L/45 C/36. Put them in DP mounts and you can drop the 88:s as well.
Hmm just realized I&#39;m suggesting the Atlanta class http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_class_cruiser ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:40:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A dedicated destroyer killer to work in with other ships.  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ You need to divide the world into two parts - the U.S. and everyone else.
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_class_cruiser">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_class_cruiser</a>
<br>
The U.S. GDP is so large compared to everyone else that they can afford to build dozens of 12,000 ton Cleveland class cruisers. If you&#39;ve got the cash then
by all means build them. The expensive Cleveland class cruisers were great for killing DDs and great for AA... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:07:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ My thinking could be very flawed. I had been doing alot of reading on various WW2 Pacific actions. I saw it several mentions that the 6 inch cruisers were very
effective against destroyers. It seems that destroyers carrying the long lance in the early actions did a huge amount of damage. I saw that the Brooklyns and
Clevelands were not as heavy and I assume not as well protected as the Baltimore Class. This made me think that if these cruisers are not as durable as the
Baltimores that could... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:17:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ahoj!
<br>
In other words, you want a ship armoured against 8&quot; fire, but armed with 5-6&quot; guns.
<br>
This is not good use of tonnage, IMHO.
<br>
<br>
The ultimate destroyer killer, even if a tad expensive, was the Atlanta class.
<br>
<br>
Borys ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ A special Destroyer Killer is something quite strange and possibly not very logical as a purpose build vessel. A light cruiser can perform in such a role as it
is flexible and strong in construction normally. The same light cruiser also has more to offer against other cruisers, since you are mistaken in the
protectionscheme of heavy cruiser, which are normally identical to light cruisers (or you have to violate treaty agreements.)
<br>
<br>
Besides that, destroyers are hard hitting, but... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ While I don&#39;t know how to design a ship perhaps you can help.
<br>
<br>
Lets say events unfold where the following are the facts.
<br>
<br>
Destroyers have been a major difficulty for operations of several types.
<br>
<br>
The current light cruisers were resonably successful at this task but fell victim to heavy cruiser fire.
<br>
<br>
This new ship is not designed to counter heavy cruisers but has to operate in an environment that is heavy in both destoryers and cruisers.
<br>
<br>
This... ]]></description>

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